FROM SOMEONE WHO SPENT 6 YEARS IN CUBA ON A SCHOLARSHIP
Hello, Well I spent 6 long years in Cuba on a scholarship. When I just got there it was terrible. Imagine the water at the university was brown. My fist week I was hospitalized. You see for tourists and even us students life in Cuba is good cause we have money and at that time (three years ago) the US dollar was legal. Imagine the salary of my teachers at the university was $14US a month. Fidel claims that Cubans don't need big salaries cause he gives them food but the food that is rationed doesn't even last a week. The country is full of hypocrites. In the news they would talk bad about all other countries especially the US and nothing bad about Cuba. A tourist watching the news would think that Cuba is heaven. There are so many murders, robberies, rapes everything you can think of and you hear nothing about it in the news. I have so many friends there and it was illegal for me to sleep over at their house. There are spies in all the neighborhoods watching and reporting everything that goes on. Although I would take a chance, if they did get caught, they would be given a ticket for $1500US. Totally ridiculous. One can build their house from their sweat and can't have who ever they want to stay over. All these rallies that they have with people marching that is all a show. Half of the people who go don't have a choice. If they don't go the can lose their jobs or get a salary cut so they have to go. When I was there they said that the country isn't communist it is FIDELIST. I must say that it is a lovely country and the people are really nice but the system and the government it full of it. They would send their best doctors to other countries like Venezuela while in their country there is a shortage of doctors at the hospitals. They claim that they did it to help these countries and that there was nothing to gain but we knew better. There is so much more but then this would be a book not a letter. Hypocrites, Hypocrites, Hypocrites I had a nice 6 years there but what they are doing to the people is just not right. MJ
Hello, Well I spent 6 long years in Cuba on a scholarship. When I just got there it was terrible. Imagine the water at the university was brown. My fist week I was hospitalized. You see for tourists and even us students life in Cuba is good cause we have money and at that time (three years ago) the US dollar was legal. Imagine the salary of my teachers at the university was $14US a month. Fidel claims that Cubans don't need big salaries cause he gives them food but the food that is rationed doesn't even last a week. The country is full of hypocrites. In the news they would talk bad about all other countries especially the US and nothing bad about Cuba. A tourist watching the news would think that Cuba is heaven. There are so many murders, robberies, rapes everything you can think of and you hear nothing about it in the news. I have so many friends there and it was illegal for me to sleep over at their house. There are spies in all the neighborhoods watching and reporting everything that goes on. Although I would take a chance, if they did get caught, they would be given a ticket for $1500US. Totally ridiculous. One can build their house from their sweat and can't have who ever they want to stay over. All these rallies that they have with people marching that is all a show. Half of the people who go don't have a choice. If they don't go the can lose their jobs or get a salary cut so they have to go. When I was there they said that the country isn't communist it is FIDELIST. I must say that it is a lovely country and the people are really nice but the system and the government it full of it. They would send their best doctors to other countries like Venezuela while in their country there is a shortage of doctors at the hospitals. They claim that they did it to help these countries and that there was nothing to gain but we knew better. There is so much more but then this would be a book not a letter. Hypocrites, Hypocrites, Hypocrites I had a nice 6 years there but what they are doing to the people is just not right. MJ
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Mon, March 19, 2007 - 4:12 PMSounds like whomever wrote this was a real primadonna. Or it's just more propaganda. Americans need to understand that Latin America is going to be different then the U.S. Some people I guess Just shouldn't travel. -
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Mon, March 19, 2007 - 4:38 PMSo just sit back and accept the inequalities of Cuba? Just because they are poor brown folk then it's OK for it to be crappy like that? Cuba doesn't have to be that way. The island can be a very vibrant democratic leader in the Carribean if it wanted to - they just have to get their act together and get rid of the Castro family that has ruined them for so long. -
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Tue, March 20, 2007 - 9:26 AMIf your worried about inequalities of "brown folk" you should write about what's going on in this country. We have the largest gap between the rich and the poor of anywhere. Cuba is as close to a "level playing field" as you're going to get anywhere. So you want to bring democracy to Cuba? Whose democracy? The U.S. backed democracy? Remember we already tried that, and it didn't go over to well did it? The U.S. created Fidel Castro with it's democracy during the Batista regime and you you want to try that again? Face it, you have no more to say that isn't just the tired old speech that comes from the Miami crowd.
Venezuela has elected it's leader in democratic elections over and over, yet we want to destroy his regime too. So you can't win in Latin America without the blessing of the U.S.
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Tue, March 20, 2007 - 12:19 PMCaemgen,
What does democracy or the lack of democracy in the USA have to do with Cuba? Why do you go off on a tangent and start talking about American shortcomings when someone brings up Cuba? Okay, let's say that things aren't great in the USA--and by the way, I agree with you vis-a-vis the gap between the rich and the poor in this country---should that morally exclude someone like Mandingo from spealking out about Cuba?
The fact is that their is a hugh gap between the rich and the poor in Cuba. Do you for one minute think that Fidel Castro and his family, his generals and the nomenklature don't live well in Cuba.? I've got news for you, they live in the mansions that they confiscated from the bougeoise that moved to Miami and Europe. They have chauffer driven limosines and maids. What's more, the masses are now poorer than ever. At least before Castro usurped Cuba's presidency and became president-for-life [he has just bequeathed his mandate to his brother in other words, Cuba is now a monarchy! Wonderful isn't it?] there was a substantial middle class in fact,. Cuba before 1959 despite its many shortcomings had the 2nd highest per capita income in all of Latin America after oil-rich Venezuela. And you can check that out in the United Nations Statistical Yearbook which is considered the ultimate authority. What's more, it had a literacy rate of 80% and free newspapers and magazines that would routinely criticized authoritarian dictator Fulgencio Batista. Today there is only one major newspaper and it is run by the government: GRANMA. For the record, it has NEVER, EVER criticized Fidel Castro. And don't hold your breath expecting it to do that any time soon.
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Tue, March 20, 2007 - 2:10 PMActually, Chavez was elected by the poor and uneducated, and unfortunately they will also be the ones paying the highest price for their ignorant choice - like the Cubans who at first supported Fidel. Those in Venezuela who have the means are leaving in droves. By the time they - (the poor in Venezuela) figure out just how horribly they've been betrayed they will be stuck in hell, like the Cubans. Then there will be no more elections - like the ones that elected Chavez in the first place.
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Wed, March 21, 2007 - 5:01 PMHaha ... You guys sound like the typical "bumber sticker," "echo chamber," "sound bite," tired old rhetoric that's been coming out of the right-wing Miami crowd forever. Now the people of Venezuela will pay for their ignorance? And if they don't pay, the U.S. will make it shitty for them so they'll be sorry. Do you ever listen to yourself? Are there any Latin American leaders you do like? Or are they all potencial communists?
So Fidel drives around in chauffer driven limosines? Where the hell is he going to drive around in that? Noone I know has ever seen it. Where's he hiding it? And don't go on and on about no free press in Cuba. You think it would be that way if the U.S. had been a free trading partner with Cuba all these years instead of trying to destroy it? Remember how fast we began losing are freedoms in this country after 911? Now compound that, starting with the Cuban missle crisis and adding 45 years of threat from the U.S. and you have the current system. So we already used a cia backed cue to take out Chavez in 2002 and the people over there all want him to stay, yet you obviously think the cue was a good idea right? Tell me the name of one country or government that won't change for the worse when threatened with destruction?
Say we put in a U.S. democracy in Cuba tomorrow. You don't think it wil have any negative affects? How about drug trafficing? The amount of drugs that will be going through that country and the devastating affects on the population would be enough for it not to be worth it. And what are you going to do with all the poor people living in beach front mansions? That will be an interesting scenario. I could go on and on. But you have the easy job, yelling "There's no free press!", "No free elections!", "Fidel rides in a limo!"
If Raul makes some changes "which he should" like allowing small businesses, then everyone should be fine. But the U.S. won't stop until they are in control and making money.
The letter was an obvious fake because for one thing he states "There are so many murders, robberies, rapes." Well if that was the case I'm lucky to be alive. Sure some things happen but it's very low and this person is really stressing it to where it almost sounds like Lagos Nigeria! Also "There are spies in all the neighborhoods watching." this is obviously someone who gets their info. second hand and has never been to Cuba. Another one is, " Illegal for me to sleep over at their house, if they did get caught, they would be given a ticket for $1500US." Here the writer takes a chance that people will believe anything, "$1500US. fine!" I laughed for a good minute or two when I read it, completely absurd. Wait it gets better, "there is a shortage of doctors at the hospitals." That's a new one, I wonder who thought that up? There were so many doctors in Cuba that I just assumed someone was a doctor till they told me otherwise.
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Thu, March 22, 2007 - 3:24 PM
>>So Fidel drives around in chauffer driven limosines? Where the hell is he going to drive around in that? Noone I know has ever seen it. Where's he hiding it?<<
I'm glad that you find it amusing. Fidel Castro's wealth is known by those who aren't too blinded by their own political absolutism to become informed. His own daughter, Alina Fernandez Revuelta, has gone on record saying that her father owns at least 50 mansions confiscated by the old bougeoise and that he owns a fleet of limos. And it doesn't stop at limos. Not too long ago, a British newspaper [and I don't have the source at this moment] reported that Castro had purchased a $100 million dollar personal jet plane. What's more, Forbes Magazine has reported--repeatedly-- that he is a multi-billionaire with secret Swiss bank accounts. Sounds pretty dam rich to me, though you will probably scoff at all of those reports as nothing more than CIA fabrications.
>>And don't go on and on about no free press in Cuba. You think it would be that way if the U.S. had been a free trading partner with Cuba all these years instead of trying to destroy it?<<
So, according to you anything that happens in Cuba is because of something that the USA does or doesn't do? That's a pretty ethnocentric and some would say even racist way of thinkng. The implication is that Cubans are lost babes in the wood, naifs, and that they are not capable of controlling their own destinies [thus the constant blame on the USA] and must therefore rely on the USA that is sophisticated to master their destinies. The fact is that Cuba doesn't have a free press because it is run by a tyrant who is painfully aware that if he allows for a free press that will be free to criticize him and stir popular sentiment against him, it could very well sweep him out of power. It has nothing to do wit the USA.
>>Remember how fast we began losing are freedoms in this country after 911? Now compound that, starting with the Cuban missle crisis and adding 45 years of threat from the U.S. and you have the current system. So we already used a cia backed cue to take out Chavez in 2002 and the people over there all want him to stay, yet you obviously think the cue was a good idea right? Tell me the name of one country or government that won't change for the worse when threatened with destruction?<<
I suggest that you take history lessons and stop repeating so many sound bites. Did you know that after Batista was ousted from power, the USA recognized Fidel Castro's government in record time? Did you know that while Batista was still in power, he had purchased arms from the USA to fight off the revolutionary forces that were trying to defeat him and that the USA refused to deliver arms that had already been paid for and that this more than anything else led to Castro's rise to power? In fact, it was Castro who turned against the USA, because Castro has always been anti-American. This anti-Americanism is attributed to his Spanish-born father who came to Cuba as a teenager to fight on the side of the Spanish crown against the Cuban freedom and the Americans in the Cuban-Spanish-American War of 1898. Many Spaniards hated the fact that the USA defeated Spain and took away from her, her last remaining colonies of what once was a glorious empire on which the sun never set.
>>Say we put in a U.S. democracy in Cuba tomorrow. You don't think it wil have any negative affects? How about drug trafficing? The amount of drugs that will be going through that country and the devastating affects on the population would be enough for it not to be worth it. And what are you going to do with all the poor people living in beach front mansions? That will be an interesting scenario. I could go on and on. But you have the easy job, yelling "There's no free press!", "No free elections!", "Fidel rides in a limo!"<<
So, you don't think that there is drug trafficking in Cuba now? When Carlos Lehder, the Colombian drug kingpin, was arrested several years ago, it came out in his trail that Cuba was a stop over for drugs imported into the USA. The Cuban government was in cahoots with the Colombian kingpin of drugs! So, what are you talking about?
>>If Raul makes some changes "which he should" like allowing small businesses, then everyone should be fine. But the U.S. won't stop until they are in control and making money.<<
Instead of wondering if Raul is going to make changes [which I can guarantee he is not], why don't you wonder why he took over from his brother? Why don't you criticize that? Is Cuba a monarchy like in the Middle East? When the King of Saudi Arabia died, he bequethed the throne to his brother. It seems that Castro has done the same thing and yet, people like you are all honkey dory and peachy king about it.
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Sat, March 31, 2007 - 1:38 PMOk, so I guess we won't discuss the fact that you guys posted a fake letter on here to make some point. I assume you thought noone would notice. So I'll just address your other points.
>>I'm glad that you find it amusing. Fidel Castro's wealth is known by those who aren't too blinded by their own political absolutism to become informed. His own daughter, Alina Fernandez Revuelta, has gone on record saying that her father owns at least 50 mansions confiscated by the old bougeoise and that he owns a fleet of limos. And it doesn't stop at limos. Not too long ago, a British newspaper [and I don't have the source at this moment] reported that Castro had purchased a $100 million dollar personal jet plane. What's more, Forbes Magazine has reported--repeatedly-- that he is a multi-billionaire with secret Swiss bank accounts. Sounds pretty dam rich to me, though you will probably scoff at all of those reports as nothing more than CIA fabrications.<<
Yeah, so he has access to money. Are you saying he spends it lavishly? Wine, women and cars? That's what I'd be doing, but not him. He certainly hasn't used it for vacations in the last 40 years. And what is this fleet of limos you keep bring up? Where do they drive to? Noone has ever seen them. The streets in Havana aren't exactly limo freindly. Maybe he loans his personal fleet of limos out to visiting diplomats? This is silly Miami propaganda as usual.
Oh yeah, his daughter Alina. She has made a good business out of politics. 50 mansions? There are more then that the government took over. They are mostly used for government affairs, or do you (and Alina) think he sits in them all by himself secretly plooting how to accumulate more wealth? Come on, you can come up with better stuff than this can't you?
>>So, according to you anything that happens in Cuba is because of something that the USA does or doesn't do? That's a pretty ethnocentric and some would say even racist way of thinkng. The implication is that Cubans are lost babes in the wood, naifs, and that they are not capable of controlling their own destinies [thus the constant blame on the USA] and must therefore rely on the USA that is sophisticated to master their destinies. The fact is that Cuba doesn't have a free press because it is run by a tyrant who is painfully aware that if he allows for a free press that will be free to criticize him and stir popular sentiment against him, it could very well sweep him out of power. It has nothing to do wit the USA.<<
Id say it's the other way around. The U.S. thinks Cubans are incapable of running a country, as well as most Latin American countries. Have you ever been inside the U.S. interest section in Havana? I have. What do you think goes on in there? A lot of meetings in small rooms between U.S. officials and Cuban nationals. Oh they would love the opportunity to use the press in Cuba to put out their propaganda which would be very similar to what you 've been spouting on thse lists. It has nothing to do with the U.S.? Don't make me laugh.
>>I suggest that you take history lessons and stop repeating so many sound bites. Did you know that after Batista was ousted from power, the USA recognized Fidel Castro's government in record time? Did you know that while Batista was still in power, he had purchased arms from the USA to fight off the revolutionary forces that were trying to defeat him and that the USA refused to deliver arms that had already been paid for and that this more than anything else led to Castro's rise to power? In fact, it was Castro who turned against the USA, because Castro has always been anti-American. This anti-Americanism is attributed to his Spanish-born father who came to Cuba as a teenager to fight on the side of the Spanish crown against the Cuban freedom and the Americans in the Cuban-Spanish-American War of 1898. Many Spaniards hated the fact that the USA defeated Spain and took away from her, her last remaining colonies of what once was a glorious empire on which the sun never set.<<
Paint it anyway you like but the fact is that Castro came here in 59 and the American president refused to meet with him. We are doing this very thing right now to other leaders of countries we don't agree with. Don't give me this Spanish-American war crap.
>>So, you don't think that there is drug trafficking in Cuba now? When Carlos Lehder, the Colombian drug kingpin, was arrested several years ago, it came out in his trail that Cuba was a stop over for drugs imported into the USA. The Cuban government was in cahoots with the Colombian kingpin of drugs! So, what are you talking about?<<
In "cahoots" eh? If you just replaced the word Cuba with the word U.S., you would be right on almost all this issues. Ironic isn't it? No illegal drugs to speak of on the streets of Cuba, which is nothing short of amazing. Sure some people have a little weed or I've seen cocaine there, but it's very very rare.
>>Instead of wondering if Raul is going to make changes [which I can guarantee he is not], why don't you wonder why he took over from his brother? Why don't you criticize that? Is Cuba a monarchy like in the Middle East? When the King of Saudi Arabia died, he bequethed the throne to his brother. It seems that Castro has done the same thing and yet, people like you are all honkey dory and peachy king about it.<<
Rual is old, how long can he rule the country? It will be interesting to see who they put in next. By that time everyone in Miami will be speaking English anyway and won't have much interest in that little island.
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Sun, April 1, 2007 - 10:32 PMCáemgen wrote:
In "cahoots" eh? If you just replaced the word Cuba with the word U.S., you would be right on almost all this issues. Ironic isn't it? No illegal drugs to speak of on the streets of Cuba, which is nothing short of amazing. Sure some people have a little weed or I've seen cocaine there, but it's very very rare.
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Mon, April 2, 2007 - 12:21 AMWell it depends on the crowd you were hanging with. You might go into a little more detail about that. For example, If you got befriended by a group of rastas that hang-out in Havana Vieja (which btw *is* "a normal tourist experience," especially for foreign women) you would come into contact with weed on a daily basis. And tourists are usually offered everything under the sun anyway.
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Tue, April 3, 2007 - 2:48 PMnope, I'm not a fan of the rastas. I was there on an artists residency (and then part of the bienal de la habana) and so was surrounded by cuban (visual) artists, most of whom were either students at ISA , taught at ISA, or had once been in either category. Internationally exhibited, etc.
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Tue, April 3, 2007 - 4:12 AM
>>Yeah, so he has access to money. Are you saying he spends it lavishly? Wine, women and cars? That's what I'd be doing, but not him. He certainly hasn't used it for vacations in the last 40 years. And what is this fleet of limos you keep bring up? Where do they drive to? Noone has ever seen them. The streets in Havana aren't exactly limo freindly. Maybe he loans his personal fleet of limos out to visiting diplomats? This is silly Miami propaganda as usual.<<
Of course he spends it lavishly: a 100 million dollar personal jet isn't lavish? And yes, he does have a fleet of limos. How do you think that he travels around Havana? Fidel Castro paints a very different picture of himself than the reality. Until recently, people didn't even know that he was married and has 5 grown sons with a woman by the name of Dalia. If he hides something like that from the world, do you think that he is going to admit that he lives a lavish life? You can discard it as silly Miami propaganda, but I don't think that Forbes Magazine is published in Miami by Cuban exiles and it claim that Castro has a multi-billion dollar fortune.
>>Oh yeah, his daughter Alina. She has made a good business out of politics. 50 mansions? There are more then that the government took over. They are mostly used for government affairs, or do you (and Alina) think he sits in them all by himself secretly plooting how to accumulate more wealth? Come on, you can come up with better stuff than this can't you?<<
I would think that Alina Fernandez Revuelta knows more about her own father than you do.
>>Id say it's the other way around. The U.S. thinks Cubans are incapable of running a country, as well as most Latin American countries. Have you ever been inside the U.S. interest section in Havana? I have. What do you think goes on in there? A lot of meetings in small rooms between U.S. officials and Cuban nationals. Oh they would love the opportunity to use the press in Cuba to put out their propaganda which would be very similar to what you 've been spouting on thse lists. It has nothing to do with the U.S.? Don't make me laugh.<<
First of all, if the USA wanted, they could have overthrown Castro a long time ago. The USA hasn't overthrown Castro because there is not vested interest in doing so. Cuba is not oil-rich Iraq. It overthrown Saddam Hussein a much more formidable foe under the pretext that he had arms of mass destruction, so don't give me this baloney about the USA trying to overthrow Castro's 48 year long tyranny out of their interest section. I know that they help dissidents and I know about the band around the U.S Interest Section Building that emits the news, but that is so lame compared to what they could do if they wanted to. By the way, I understand that there are quite a few convicted Cuban moles in the USA. Does Ana Maria Belen ring a bell? Do a google search on her. And then of course, there are the famous or shall I say infamous 5 spies that are now serving time, and let's not forget the psychology professor working out of Florida International University who was convicted along with his wife just a few months ago. Do you think that the Cuban government sits around in its intersest section twiddling it's thumbs? They seem pretty active if you ask me. But wait, I know what you are going to say, they are defending themselves yadda, yadda, yadda.
>>Paint it anyway you like but the fact is that Castro came here in 59 and the American president refused to meet with him. We are doing this very thing right now to other leaders of countries we don't agree with. Don't give me this Spanish-American war crap.<<
I'm not painting it anyway. You have a right to your opinions, but not to your facts. The USA recognized Castro in record time and it helped usher him into power by denying Batista arms with which to fight the rebel forces, and Castro's father Angel Castro was indeed a soldier in the Imperialistic Spanish Army who went to Cuba to fight the freedom fighters struggling against the Spanish crown.
>>In "cahoots" eh? If you just replaced the word Cuba with the word U.S., you would be right on almost all this issues. Ironic isn't it? No illegal drugs to speak of on the streets of Cuba, which is nothing short of amazing. Sure some people have a little weed or I've seen cocaine there, but it's very very rare.<<
Well, I never said that the drugs that go into Cuba end up in the hands of the Cuban people. I said that according to Carlos Lehder, former Colombian Drug King Pin, the regime was in cahoots with the Colombian Drug Cartels. In exchange for allowing Cuba to be a safe haven, a stop over for drug traffickers, Castro gets paid millions. The drugs are then smuggled into the USA and sold in the streets of American cities. It's a way to make money and harm the American people.
>>Rual is old, how long can he rule the country? It will be interesting to see who they put in next. By that time everyone in Miami will be speaking English anyway and won't have much interest in that little island.<<
That's a pretty flippant and vile way of looking at things. To the Cuban people who have been suffering under a totalitarian Stalinist regime for the last 48 years, Raul's longevity is indeed a matter of concern. To you its not because you live in a fairly democratic country [and notice that I am aware of the shortcomings of the USA, so I don't say a democracy] where you and I can have this open debate on the Internet and we can criticize the USA government without the fear of some government apparachik knocking on our doors. Obviously, you really don't care about the Cuban people, otherwise you would be advocating for a democratic transition in Cuba. I'm sure that if Bush, Sr., decided to take over the presidency after his son's term is over, you wouldn't just sit back and twittle your thumbs and say, ho-hum how much longer can he rule?
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Re: Letter from someone who spent 6 years in Cuba under scholarship
Sat, April 7, 2007 - 6:01 AM6 years....you sound like a jilted lover...
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