New here. Anyone have fave Cuban music you would like to recommend? Say why.
My favorite singer is Manuel Cantero who is with Pupy's band, anyone else like him? My reason? -the best I can say is this guy adds flavor to a song, he really makes it hot!.
My favorite singer is Manuel Cantero who is with Pupy's band, anyone else like him? My reason? -the best I can say is this guy adds flavor to a song, he really makes it hot!.
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Mon, September 19, 2005 - 2:05 PMMy fave Cuban musico is Juan Carlos Formell - he is a good friend of mine - he lives in NYC. I consider his music a work of art -poetry - he is truly the up and coming new face of Cuban music.
Check out his page:
juancarlosformell.com/
His father is Juan Formell the founder and leader of Los Van Van in Cuba.
Juan Carlos fled Cuba because he is critical about Fidel's tyranny and he tells it like it is - it did not matter if his dad was famous. This might upset some of you here who think nice of the Revolution. Talk to JCF and he will tell you it wasn't too nice. Remember, he lived in Cuba as a citizen and not as a tourist.
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Juan Carlos Formell's first album (songs from a little blue house) was nominated for a 2000 Grammy. Classic! I have seen him a bunch of times and he is incredible. Every time I see him in NYC in concert it's a different experience. You have to see him live. His new CD (about Cuba and New Orleans, no less, is coming out any day now)
He is currently on tour now and he has done several shows and donated the funds to Katrina relief. He has recorded 2 albums in New Orleans a city which he loves. -
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Mon, September 19, 2005 - 5:05 PMI checked out his page, I already like his poetry from the little bit I read. I'll check out his music at some point. I also love New Orleans, I was only there once, very briefly, (the final destination of a cruise) and for the little time that I was there, I haven't forgotten how vibrant the French Quarter was. -
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Mon, September 19, 2005 - 8:09 PMMandingo, do you like any Cuban bands that are in Cuba?
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Mon, September 19, 2005 - 9:18 PMBamboleo is very good (i have a CD) and so are The Afro Cuban All Stars. The Afro Cuban All Stars are incredible with their mix of traditional Cuban sounds and fusion of jazz. A couple of their songs make my heart melt. Is Siera maestra still around. I like a song called Tiburon and also another one - I don't know they name where the guy says "Santa Maria!" yet the name escapes me.
But I have a problem with bands from Cuba because there are no free
markets or free enteprise systems there. They basically exploited by Fidel, and give all the money they make overseas to the Castro dictatorship lie the Buena Vista Social club did. Such incredible talent but not really free to express them selves artistically or politically all the way. It's a miricle they even let them tour. When my friend Juan Carlos was in Cuba his band used to play overseas - they would always have some heavies from state security (ss) to stop them from defecting. Juan Carlos made a run for it when he was in Mexico city and escaped from the Cuban securirty men. He crossed the Rio Grande into the USA.
What do you think would happen to them if they sang a bunch of protest songs (like we do here) about human rights abuses or the plight of Afro Cubans like Dr. Biscet in Fidel's prison industrial system? I don't think the Castro family would not like that very much - jail time or ruining of careers.
But...they are grand musicos anyway...on both side of the issues and the water - so in the end the politics really don't matter too much. In the end the music wins - hearts and minds!
Please turn me on to others I might not know. -
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Mon, September 19, 2005 - 11:24 PMI understand what you mean and I won't say it's the ideal working environment for musicians but I know some musicians down there that make better money then musicians on their same level "musically" here in the states. And when you add in the lower cost of living in Cuba, it makes a very interesting comparison.
Things peaked in the late Ninties, band directors making a thousand dollars in one perfomance were not unheard of. Now, some of these same musicians have reduced the number of members in there group and will play more pop music to capture many different markets. They have done this becuse they have became accostomed to a certain lifestyle in the Ninties and things have slowed down in the last few years.
Don't blame Cuban musicians for not bashing the Cuban government in their music, that's not why their playing music, their there for girls and money, period. And why even say anything that will cause you or your group to have a harder time getting gigs, it's hard enough as it is. Apart from that it's total capitalism in the music biz in Cuba, all you have to do is play 'their' game "No talking bad about the revolution and no drugs" and it's the wild west.
The many different agencies that represent the different Cuban musical group though out the island just care about making their percentage, that's it. They love it when one of their groups gets a contract to go out of the country because it's more money for everybody. And don't believe any Cuban musician that says there is security watching him or her when playing outside the country, what a laugh. Only one person from the agency gets to go along for the trip with the band, usually a middle-aged women. They will usually rent one big house and live all together, imagine trying to watch a group a 12 or 15 wild young Cubans for 2 or 3 months! If one day they wake up and want to stay in that particular country, there's nothing anyone can do about it. Remember, any group in Cuba, dancers, musicians, if they have their academic papers in order and there is some foreign entity flipping the bill, can tour with no questions asked.
I wouldn't exactly agree with the statement that Formel's son was a "average Cuban citizen." Anyone connected with that family would be living on a much more elevated status.
A strange thing has happened in Cuba as of late, where the groups that are on top "Van Van, Bamboleo, Charanga, Manolito, Issac, Paulito, Reve, ect." have sort of unionized in way, to where they have a certain amount they are paid and they have priority above the bands the so called "second and third tier bands." Though they may be better, the groups on the second and third levels cannot elavate to a top band status because it's being controled by the the so called "first level" bands.
So it's all about money in the end anyway. It's just a question of which country screws musicians worse. -
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Wed, September 21, 2005 - 2:29 AMAbout a year ago, I read an article about a young female singer that was being compared to Celia Cruz. She was amzing. I can't remember her name, but in the article they were saying she was trying to immigrate. I wish I could remember. Any ideas who I'm talking about?
Since I moved away to Miami, it's been hard to get read Cuban music. It's amazing how much the west coast doesn't understand about our culture or issues. Luckily, I go back to Miami a few times a year to visit family and fill up on all the culture I'm missing. -
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Wed, September 21, 2005 - 1:16 PMAre you talking about Lucrecia? She sings "La noche de la Iguana". (although I thought she was out) anyway, she's great too.
thanks guys for the above info about the music biz in Cuba, didn't know it worked like that. Interesting.
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Wed, September 21, 2005 - 1:58 PMThat's her. It's been so long since I actually get to listen to some good Cuban music. I live in Seattle now and work mostly with electronic music.
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Fri, October 7, 2005 - 9:10 PMCachao is currently my fave....groundbreaking "godfather" of Cuban jazz....and a kick ass bass player.
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Sat, October 8, 2005 - 11:35 AMCarlos Varela cuz he kick asses. He, like Pedro Luis Ferrer, has been one of the fewer Cuban song-writers musicians in Cuba that has got the balls to directly critize Castro and his regime. Varela sings about the suffering and oppression of the Cuban people under totalitarism in a very beautiful, poetical and powerful way. Of course this has been not without consecuences for him. But, as he says in one of his songs: ('Leñador' in the CD 'Como los Peses') "Prefiero ser olvidado antes que hacerme bufon." ("I'd rather be forgotten than becoming a clown [for the king]."
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Fri, October 21, 2005 - 8:52 AMpolo montanez was wonderful.
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Sat, October 22, 2005 - 10:06 AMI agree with you on Orishas.
my fave band is without a doubt Habana Abierta,
like they say: que bueno suena un rock and roll con "timba", Habana Abierta te lo trae de pinga !!!
On a more half-breed note, Yerba Buena, out of NY, fronted by Xiomara Laugart puts out the best live show I've been to in a few months. -
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Mon, October 24, 2005 - 4:56 PMhow could I forget:
NG la Banda, let the funk begin ...
P-18 ( higher octave records ) excellent mix of cuban rythms with electronica.
enjoy.
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Fri, October 21, 2005 - 10:11 AMBenny More, Celia Cruz, Arcano, Miguelito Valdez: 'Mr. Babalu', old school. -
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Thu, October 27, 2005 - 9:16 AMEverything about Cuba is so awesome. My favorites are Los van Van, Orishas as far ar popular music goes. As far as non mainstream, the little bands all over Cuba makes me want to go back for more. -
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Mon, November 7, 2005 - 6:48 PMI'm glad for your responses, hopefully I can get around to checking some of these out some day. In October, the band Charanga Habanera was in town (Montreal), and I managed to miss it, apparently it was awesome.
p.s. (don't know when I'll be on again, as my computer freezes at regular intervals, and I can only do so much. Waiting till x-mas to get a new computer) -
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Mon, November 7, 2005 - 8:46 PM
This may come as a cliche answer, but to this day certain songs from The Buena Vista Social Club give me goosebumps.
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Fri, January 6, 2006 - 2:59 PMtheres always Elides Ochoa, and Nico Saquito (I think thats how theyre spelled). I'm a huge fan of Elides. -
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Sat, January 14, 2006 - 6:24 PMI love Eliades, I had one of his CD's until it got stolen from my car (along with others, I hate when that happens..) -
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Sat, January 14, 2006 - 9:44 PMActually I think Los Van-Van and Buena Vista are way over rated! Ho hum - Buena Vista's are a dime a dozen in Cuba- I don't know what the big deal is really? Juan Carlos Formel - the son of the creator of Los Van Van is a hundred times better and he lives in NYC in freedom. His first album was nominated for a Grammy in 2000 so you know he has to be good. -
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Wed, February 1, 2006 - 8:25 PMVan Van overated??... Juan Carlos Formell a hundred times better??...
That's really brilliant. Just a guess, you don't hang around many musicians, do you?
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